Despite a solid thirty-year career at St John, it took a lot of convincing for Shirley Kerr to embark on a degree. After struggling at school, she thought she didn’t have the skills and the knowledge to study at tertiary level. However, as colleagues pointed out, she was actually doing a lot of things in her role that graduates do. Shirley found the degree process through Capable NZ “challenging, scary, fantastic and so self-fulfilling". Her success has given her renewed confidence in herself and in her role at St John.